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Windows Marketplace for Mobile – what is not allowed

4 May,2009 by Saijo George.
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Banned from WM MArketplace

If you want to go over the entire details check this PDF but the folks @ wmexperts.com has gone through that and has posted some of the ‘questionable’ ones as

No VOIP apps using a carrier’s data.
No apps that replace or modify the default dialer, SMS or MMS apps.
No apps with an OTA download of over 10MB.
No apps that change the default browser, search client, or media player on the device. ( expect the opera browser’s make this my default browser option to go away )

One of the things Windows Mobile users see as an advantage of Windows Mobile is the freedom that was available for third party apps to modify the underlying OS. some of the great windows mobile apps like PocketCM will never be approved by the app store if all these restrictions are placed on the approval process. I think these strict approval process will have a negative impact on the popularity of Windows Mobile and drive more developers away to other platform like the iPhone or Android. As a Windows Mobile user what do you think about these restrictions ?

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Saijo George

@ sebcbien : I see where you are coming from. But my issue with the whole thing is since market place is going to have a huge impact on the Windows Mobile Apps world as many developers would like to have their apps listed there, they have to go by the rules of the app store and offer less freedom to users.

eg : If a app that downloads podcast is released for the app store, it would have the no OTA download of 10MB limit on it. If the app was made and no app store existed we could download any file size without limit ( of couse if dont have a good data plan we would be screwed ).

So my point being the app store is a good thing , but all the limitations that are being placed is something I am not too happy about

sebcbien

These restrictions IMHO are for 2 reasons:
1) keep the stability of the system
2) Do not go against carrier operators waitings.

Of course MS canot made his platform less attractive for the carriers, their main client... well, us custommers have other expectations but that's the mareket law.
If Microsoft doesn't agree, those carriers will use other platforms and our "loved" Winmo will lose a lot of marketshares.
Difficult choise so, difficult to find the right limit to content all users and carrier operators.
Personally I think that It's a lot better than IPhone as we are still free to install everything we want, even if it will be not as easy as with their new MarketPlace service.
It's a new service not restricting our previous "rights" so, why complain ??

Omhra

The signing of certificates will be the problem and how MS will probably manage this "market place" market. And depending on their greed they might alienate us WM techies like they did with Vista.
Remember that these editing restriction are all about the class of data streaming you employ for a given purpose. VOIP is the most obvious example.

It might be time for our tier of users to ask our carriers to sell a package that allowes any connection type with the transivers on board; and let us manage our devices as we see fit.

sebcbien

well... the main difference between "Windows Marketplace for Mobile" and iTunes is that iTunes is the ONLY way to install apps on an iPhone (non jailbreaked) ...
Son, even if "Windows Marketplace for Mobile" wont propose to download and install applications like PocketCM you will still able to install them "the old way" ...
So WinMo is still far more open than iPhone where Apple control everything...

richard

Oh come on, this is just paranoia surely? Are you seriously telling me that you won't be able to install third party apps using cabs anymore and only get them through market place?

Microsoft will have to be pretty flexible with these 'rules' to establish market place as an alternative to the established alternatives.

Chill out people! "looks like i'm switching to iphone" where apple$ app $tore restrictions are even greater, and the phone can uninstall any app deemed by the mighty megacorp (tm) that it shouldn't be there.

Saijo George

You got me all wrong mate, I do understand that we can still install cabs of any file we choose on the phone. its just that I am disappointed by the various restrictions on the apps to be approved in the marketplace. Apps in the app store will surely get more exposure than the one @ xda-devs, many great apps and tweaks that can be found on xda-devs will never come on the app store.

kiv

Looks like I'm switching to iPhone with all these restrictions - better touch screen and cheaper!

chaitanya krishnan

wow, so many rediculous restrictions!
their target audience must be apple fanboys who can't afford iphones, or iphone users who are switching to windows for kicks

Ivan

Damn!!!

I have just one question - do we look like milk cows???
how long MS and other shit will milk us???
why, after paying a "bald" sum i get sucking UI, and when i want to change it - i can't???

I'm just disappointed...

Saijo George

You guys are right, PocketCM does not change the default SMS application but once its installed, it becomes the SMS app and when new SMS comes in it launches the PocketCM app and the sms is displayed in it. I am not sure if Microsoft will allow this, I do hope they do. Coz once they go down that path and start restricting apps based on these ridiculous rules, I am sure many WinMo fans will be disappointed

Eric

I don't think I'm reading it the same way you are. PocketCM neither replaces nor modifies the default client. That is, the default client remains and is not changed when using PocketCM. You can choose to use PocketCM as the default, but the default SMS program is still there. Therefore, it is neither replaced nor modified.

The same goes with Opera. You can choose to make Opera your default browser, but PIE is not changed nor modified. The user must make it the default and has the option to change it back. And let's face it, if you know enough about WM to use Opera, you're probably capable of installing it on your own without an app store.

Zach W

Nothing that changes the default media player (I use PocketTunes), browser (Opera and Skyfire are way better that pocket IE), and no VOIP (Skype works pretty good but could be better). When comparing to the iPhone, however, it's not that different (iPhone can't change Safari as default browser and iPod is the main media player) but one of the advantages to Windows Mobile is the fact that it can be customized to the users liking with relative ease. So while Microsoft is holding fairly close to Apple's app store rules as well, it is shying away from what has helped set WinMo apart.

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